Who is in the bathtub silence of the lambs

As I recall, in the book, they say that Bill is almost certainly not a transsexual. He just has really low self esteem or something. Buffalo Bill was a gay man who wanted to dress or live as a woman. I think he wanted to have a sex change but couldn't? In fact the director Jonathan Demme a noted liberal guy was so upset because at the time the film was released it was criticized by gay rights advocates for continuing to foster he idea that gay people are all wackos and psychopaths. Silence of the Lambs is one of the best movies in the last 50 years.

And good call on the tub. I have been strangely fascinated by that scene as well. What the hell was that and what happened? That's what I thought as well Doug, but apparently the book is claiming low self esteem! I do believe the book changed that though because Lecter most certainly identifies him as wanting to be a female, hence the rejected sex change operation thingy. An interesting and complex character indeed!

It's more along the lines that he hates himself, owing to having been abused as a child, like most actual serial killers. He "tries on" different identities, which Lecter alludes to in the movie when he says he expects Bill failed at a lot of things.

That's why the surgeons wouldn't accept him for surgery, because he wasn't actually a transsexual. I love this post. The Corpse In The Tub has haunted me for years. I agree that it's one of the scariest parts of the film, if not THE scariest.

It's strange but I'm endlessly fascinated with that one scene Bateman: Do you know what Ed Gein said about women? Van Patten: Ed Gein? Maitre d' at Canal Bar? Bateman: No, serial killer Wisconsin in the fifties. McDermott: So what did Ed say? Bateman: When I see a pretty girl walking down the street I think two things.

One part of me wants to take her out and talk to her and be real nice and sweet and treat her right. For a year and a half, Cody delivered 12 bison a day to the hungry workers. It's estimated he killed more than 4, in one eight-month period, and he once killed 48 buffalo in 30 minutes.

This famous line is spoken by Dr. After Dr. Lecter escapes, he calls Clarice and says, " Well, Clarice… have the lambs stopped screaming? It is very likely that General Hannibal was a cannibal since historians tell us that during the Punic Wars, retreating soldiers had no choice but to eat human flesh. He is a brilliant psychiatrist who leads a double life as a cannibalistic serial killer known as The Chesapeake Ripper and the archenemy of Will Graham.

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The series, starring Michael Weatherly as jury consultant Dr. Jason Bull, was renewed for a sixth season in April. Who is in the bathtub silence of the lambs? Asked by: Mervin Emmerich. Jame Gumb was born October 25th, , somewhere in California. His unusual first name resulted in a misspelling on his birth certificate, originally supposed to be called James.

Having failed in her acting career, his prostitute mother fell into an alcoholic decline, leaving him to be placed in a unsatisfactory foster home at age 2.

At age 10, his grandparents retrieved him from the foster home and took him back to their home in Sacramento, where he murdered them impulsively in front of barricading police at age As a result, he was sentenced to six years in Tulare Vocational Rehabilitation , where he was taught how to be a tailor.

Following his release, Gumb worked off the books in at least two restaurants, and sporadically in the clothing business. While beginning work in a Baltimore curio store, he met and began a questionable romantic relationship with a local orchestra flutist, Benjamin Raspail , who financially supported him for some time.

The curio store later fired Gumb for some unspecified reason. In anger he killed a bag woman, and managed to intercept a suitcase from his former employer. In his hotel room, crying, he opened up the suitcase. Finding dead butterfies, he searched for possible valueables. A live butterfly flew out of the case, leading to an epiphany for Gumb. He also worked in a clothing store called Mr Hide Inc. Raspail later ended his relationship with Gumb in favor of a Norwegian sailor named Klaus.

Gumb murdered Klaus out of envy, and created an apron from his skin. He took Klaus' decapitated head and inserted a moth in his throat, then placed it within a jar, which he stashed within a car in an impound warehouse owned by Raspail. Believing himself to be transsexual, Gumb began applications for gender reassignment surgery and applied to schools such as Johns Hopkins. However, all of his applications were declined. The hospitals' vetting process deemed Gumb too psychologically disturbed and not fitting the profile of a true transgender person.

Their background checks also uncovered his real name and his criminal record, which he had lied about. Gumb violently assaulted a doctor at Johns Hopkins after being rejected. His failed application for gender reassignment surgery at Johns Hopkins would ultimately lead to him being identified as "Buffalo Bill" by the FBI. In early he was introduced to Dr. Hannibal Lecter through Raspail and had just one session. According to Raspail, Gumb would attack gay men. Lecter himself would end up being placed under arrest for his own killing spree including Raspail as his ninth victim.

Despite only meeting Gumb in person once, Lecter had been told a lot about him by Raspail in their therapy sessions "everything but his shoe size", Jack Crawford would later comment.

After Gumb had finished consulting with Dr. Lecter, he started up as a tailor in Belvedere, Ohio. Sometime in he met an overweight woman, Fredrica Bimmel , whose skin struck his attention. Gumb had then conceived the idea that if he could not become female by legal means, he could make himself into a woman through fashioning together a woman suit made from the skins of real women.

He had then set up to take over a property in the town with a large under basement area, where he could hold his victims, starting with Bimmel. Fortunately, in stalking Bimmel, Gumb came to discover that Bimmel's employer, Mrs. Lippman, who was a local, appropriated a house with an old basement that contained many rooms and a large dry well.

Sometime during this period he acquired a poodle who he named Precious. Lippman died on a holiday in Florida whilst with Gumb. Gumb inherited everything from Mrs Lippman. Using the alias John Grant he took over the house. He then abducted Bimmel and kept her prisoner in the well. Despite this, they had a strong friendship, even sending notes to each other. Bimmel eventually became the first excoriated victim of Gumb as well as his first "Buffalo Bill" murder.

After Bimmel's murder, he abducted another four women. He targeted larger women, as he needed a suit big enough to fit his bigger male body. He would keep them entrapped in the large dry well in the basement of Mrs. Lippman's home, starving them to loosen their skins and making them clean their skin with lotion before killing them a few days later. He hanged the first two women, luring them to the top of the stairs with the promise of a shower before pushing them off at the top.

He shot his subsequent victims with his Colt Python handgun. He then skinned them and added them to his woman suit and disposed of their bodies in lakes.

As Bimmel was weighed down, she was actually found third.